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Enigma Signal Meter - Krkadoni Edition
« on: September 15, 2011, 03:15:40 pm »


Enigma Signal Meter - Krkadoni Edition

First release of Enigma Signal Meter was quite popular, but it was buggy, lacked support for many different Enigma 1 and Enigma 2 flavors, had no support for multitasking,  had confusing and different interface for E1 & E2 receivers.  That's why new Enigma Signal Meter - Krkadoni Edition was born.

Description:

Fast, small, portable, simple and free application for Enigma 1 / Enigma 2 satellite receivers, build to help you align you satellite dish to perfection.

Features:

  • SUPPORTS ALL currently existing Enigma1 and Enigma2 receivers and images
  • same simple interface used for Enigma1 and Enigma2 boxes (originally they are quite different)
  • full background processing (running tasks will not hang application)
  • small & portable (doesn't require installation and can be run from USB stick)
  • autoupdate (offers to update when new version is available)
  • voice reading of signal levels (uses default Windows voice)
  • signal beeping (beeps signal with frequency depending on signal level)
  • works remotely (just forward web port and you can connect from anywhere

Requirements

  • Enigma 1 or Enigma 2 based satellite receivers with running Web interface (WebIf)
  • Network connection between receiver and computer
  • Windows XP or higher
  • .NET Framework 3.5
  • 1 MB of free disk space

So far tested and working on:

- DM500
- DM500HD
- DM600
- DM7000
- DM7020
- DM7025
- DM800
- DM800SE
- DM8000
- VU+ Uno
- VU+ Duo
- AzBox Premium
- AzBox HD Elite
- AzBox Ultra HD
- Kathrein UFS 910
- IPBox 9000
- Amiko Alien
- Topfield TF 7700HD PVR
- Gigablue solo
- ClarkeTech ET9000

For best results when searching (faster response time):
- don't search while zapped on HD channels
- don't search while recording
- don't search while receiver's web interface is open in web browser
- don't search if you have other plugins running
- generally avoid anything that slows down your receiver

Thanks to all people on Satelitski Forum who tested.

« Last Edit: September 15, 2011, 03:51:21 pm by shax »
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Enigma Signal Meter - Krkadoni Edition
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Re: Enigma Signal Meter - Krkadoni Edition
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 11:03:34 pm »
Thanks for the new version. It seem to work great.
One small advice, use a unique name on the download file.  If this is not done, proxyserver may give user old version when new version is updated.
No this way:
SignaMeter.zip
But like this
SignalMeter007.zip

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Re: Enigma Signal Meter - Krkadoni Edition
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 08:04:16 am »
Thnx for the tip Jotne. Will do that.
But how it can be catched if this is the first public version?  :evil: ^^

Anyway, proxy should always check last-changed atribute on page, and content-length on file. If they have changed proxy should not return cached version, otherwise it's a lame proxy software/setup :)
Also app has built in auto update which should cover you even if you download old version.

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« Last Edit: September 16, 2011, 08:20:23 am by shax »
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Re: Enigma Signal Meter - Krkadoni Edition
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 08:52:54 am »
Version 0.0.8

- fixed bug when connecting to port other than 80
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2012, 02:21:09 pm »
Is there any Software for satfinder which i can installed on the laptop and than by USB cable connect to LNB and do the rest.
Please let me know.
thanks

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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2012, 10:34:58 pm »
you have this software from first post,called enigma signal meter,but it isn´t conected directly to LNB,you can use it if U have any kind of E1 or E2 based reciver (dreambox,etc..)
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Re: Enigma Signal Meter - Krkadoni Edition
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2012, 03:48:33 pm »
Hi,

Installed Open Enigma 3 based image on Vu+ Uno and I am no longer getting dB readings. See attached image.

/web/signal returns:

<e2frontendstatus>
<e2snrdb>47 dB</e2snrdb>
<e2snr>47 %</e2snr>
<e2ber>0</e2ber>
<e2acg>72 %</e2acg>
</e2frontendstatus>

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Re: Enigma Signal Meter - Krkadoni Edition
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2012, 02:27:41 pm »
Well, that's odd...

Are you talking about OpenWebIf or original/patched WebIf?


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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2012, 02:29:11 pm »
Yep, it's OpenWebIf. I suppose if I install the original one, it will work again but would be good to have support for both.

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Re: Enigma Signal Meter - Krkadoni Edition
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2012, 03:56:13 pm »
I agree, and OpenWebIf should be working as well (I'm using it on my DM800 and it's working fine).
Can you see exact version of OpenWebIf (Info-->About).
I have OWIF 0.1.2 version (OpenPLI image) and works perfectly.
Have you tried other channels or maybe different settings list?

It's particularly strange because /web/signal output does look fine and numeric info is shown.
 



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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, 04:26:28 pm »
I think this is more to do with the receiver being Vu+ rather than DM as Vu+ range don't report the signal quality in dB but only in percentage. Your program then takes the percentage reading and calculates the dB.

DM receivers do report dB so you don't need to perform calculation and just report what's being reported by the receiver.

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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2012, 09:45:46 pm »
Ahh... i think i finally understand it now.

Everything is clear, there is no problem with Enigma Signal Meter, unfortunately problem is in defected version of OpenWebIF.

db levels ARE in fact shown by ESM in your screenshot, but they are not represented on the progress bar since valid progress bar values are in range 0-16 dB.
Since your receiver reports value greater than 16 dB, ESM knows that 47dB is invalid value and does not represent it on the progress bar but you can still see the value above the progress bar.

Now, if I somehow try to "convert" this value, the problem is various other versions of WebIf and OpenWebIF already have this values mixed up.
For example SNR and dB values are mixed up,  there is no SNR value at all, SNR is displayed in decimal numbers, etc.  - so doing another conversion like this would be too much.
Also, converting SNR and dB is not correct. I'm doing it in ESM for E1 images since they don't have dB values, but you'll notice that in E2 SNR and dB values are not always directly connected and not in same ratio, for example you can have db = 10 and SNR 90%, these are two different things.

The right thing to do here is to report the bug to OpenWebIF development team (or creator of your E2 image) so it can be fixed and REAL dB values can be read.

Anyway, thank you for the info.

Regards.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2012, 09:49:45 pm by shax »
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2012, 01:50:58 pm »
Shax, you are still misunderstanding it slightly. The Vu+ boxes cannot generate the dB value no matter what image/web IF is installed as the drivers do not support it. The snr and snrdb will be the same value.

I cheekily had a look at the briefly decompiled code of ESM and can see that it already checks for this issue on Vu boxes. I believe it just takes the SNR% value and divides it by 6.5*. Yes, it not accurate but does give you an indication of the dB value. It USED to work with the older version of WebIF but I don't know what values are returned by that version

When I get home, I'll install WebIF and check /web/signal values given out by it and let you know.

* if you use 6.21 value instead of 6.5, it will be a more accurate representation as I checked this with "real" dB values on DM boxes. Of course, none of these readings should be taken as gospel..

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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2012, 09:52:55 pm »
Hello again.

OK, here's the value returned by WebIF - the original version.

<e2frontendstatus>
<e2snrdb>56 %</e2snrdb>
<e2snr>56 %</e2snr>
<e2ber>0</e2ber>
<e2acg>75 %</e2acg>
</e2frontendstatus>

So the difference seems to be in how the ESM program checks for e2snrdb value. Seems like here, it's giving out <e2snrdb>56 %</e2snrdb>, so ESM sees the % sign and does the conversion. In OpenWebIF, it gives out <e2snrdb>47 dB</e2snrdb>. ESM sees "dB" within that tag and displays it without conversion.

I guess instead of checking for "%" or "dB" within the <e2snrdb> tags, you could check whether the actual value is the same or different with <e2snr> tag. SNR% hardly ever goes below 25% and SNR dB doesn't go above 20dB, so if the values are the same and above 25%, convert by dividing SNR% by 6.21 :)

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